Customary Pilotage

nickzhang

扬教授你好！现有个问题请教， 我公司TCT租进一条船，Vancouver, BC 装货，去Santos, Brazil 卸货， 途径Magellan Strait.  C/P 写明:“Chtrs will provide compulsory and customary pilotage”  Master requested entire pilotage in Magellan Strait (i.e. compulsory + non-compulsary) due to safety reasons. 请问 if Chtrs should pay for non-compulsary pilotage in Magellan Strait i.e.  in this case, should the non-compulsary pilotage be considered as customary pilotage as per C/P.

万分感谢！

nickzhang

greatly appreciate it if any one could help.

nickzhang

greatly appreciate it if any one could help.

nickzhang

greatly appreciate it if any one could help.

Tks/Brgds,

nickzhang

greatly appreciate it if any one could help.

Tks/Brgds,

nickzhang

greatly appreciate it if any one could help.

Tks/Brgds,

nickzhang

greatly appreciate it if any one could help.

Tks/Brgds,

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1# nickzhang

I don't understand if the non-compulsory pilotage is considered as customary pilotage which has been expressly covered under c/p and at charterers' expense, why shouldn't charterer pay for it?

nickzhang

AS PER C/P, CHTRS ONLY PAY COMPULSARY AND CUSTOMERY PILOTAGE. 想请扬教授给出些案例，什么情况下是customary pilotage.

thanks very much!

nickzhang

AS PER C/P, CHTRS ONLY PAY COMPULSARY AND CUSTOMERY PILOTAGE. 想请扬教授给出些案例，什么情况下是customary pilotage.

thanks very much!

nickzhang

AS PER C/P, CHTRS ONLY PAY COMPULSARY AND CUSTOMERY PILOTAGE. 想请扬教授给出些案例，什么情况下是customary pilotage.

thanks very much!

nickzhang

AS PER C/P, CHTRS ONLY PAY COMPULSARY AND CUSTOMERY PILOTAGE. 想请扬教授给出些案例，什么情况下是customary pilotage.

thanks very much!

nickzhang

Can anyone provide some cases regarding Customary Pilotage on my question.

thanks!

ElsaWANG

根据《Chitty on Contract》的12-129段，除非一个做法是人尽皆知的（notorious）、肯定（certain）、合理（reasonable）并且与法律没有冲突，否则不会被法院认定是习惯做法。至于一个做法是不是人尽皆知这个要根据事实证据来判定，仅仅是贸易惯例（trade practice）是不够的。

也就是说要判定non-compulsory pilotage是不是customary pilotage，要根据证据来判定是不是达到了custom的要求，例如如果每条船都会要求这个non-compulsory pilotage那么就有可能是customary pilotage。

nickzhang

Hi Elsa,
Thanks for your comments and noted. However, in reality, for  non-compulsory pilotage in Magellan Strait, some of vessels need pilot, and some of them do not. It depends on the weather condition and whether captain has the experience to transit the strait etc. So it would be helpful to have some cases.

Tks/Brgds,